Hey, don't turn a photographic act into a social or political sided reason. It is an unusual photo, also the photographer risked his life doing all those photos regardless of his status, military personel, or civilian photographer. I'd wish to be on the other side of the camera to be able to take this kind of shots! Great shot!
I'm requesting that as the owner of this account that you remove the inflammatory remarks by Aizenhaim. Even though that account has been deactivated you should remove it for the purpose of keeping vets such as myself from having to read that kind of thing. Thank you.
There's nothing simple-minded about any of these men and women who serve in the military... They're doing the one thing most of us don't have the guts to do. Yeah there's lots of death, but it's not murder. It's a part of war and if you knew your history you would know there is A LOT of it throughout the ages and who are we to blame any one side for anything?
There is usually a lot more to it than "I don't like you, you don't like me, lets fight about it." It's not like that. These military men and women fight for a purpose they deem necessary and relevant. Although it is sad that sometimes the innocents get mixed up in the mix of it all, you cannot claim this is slaughter because they aren't running in an blowing up peoples houses for the heck of it, they're fighting people who want them dead no matter what the cost. I mean if you watch the media you'd know Al Qaeda uses women as meat shield and their own men as martyrs. If anyone's slaughtering it's them, not our marines.
Media is bunch of liars....got it ?? all what you said is no sense .."Yeah there's lots of death, but it's not murder" ......they fight for something they deem necessary....is killing people is that necessary .....they are killing people that they want them dead cuz they are in their country god dammit ..so you come to attack me in my country and you expect from me the shut up about it and let you kill me?!! ... no i'm gonna take the shit out of you one by one .....did you used your mind when you write that or you foots ?!!!
i'm no hater but i can't stand how could you say that easily ...put your self as a victim and more importantly put you mind and heart
I know this old , but obvisiously you need to brush on your knowledge of miltary operations. We were over ther attacking them in their country. Its an unstable country with lots a violence , for chrissake , they dont even have speed limits or a right or wrong way to drive on the street. Were over there to rid there country of the ones causing mayyhem. We even helped them be rebuild. We dont kill ANYONE who isnt doing us harm. Rules of engagement: Do no fire , unless fired upon. Please go study , Id never kill a child , but guess what? If that child tried to kill me , Id have to , because I got a daughter that looks for me to come home to her. Dont go on about stuff you dont understand.
I know the media is full of lies, I never claimed they are saints. I also never said any one country/race/faction are all the same; I know every individual is different and not everyone wants to fight, not everyone wants to face tragedy and witness death. Obviously if someone comes to your home and threatens you, I would expect nothing less than fighting back, so that isn't even a question here because I agree. I'm not the one in your home and I am certainly not fighting you. Do I defend the fact that I believe there are good people in the military and that they believe what they are doing is right? Sure, because no one person is completely identical to another and not every single soldier is faced with the exact same difficult decisions. Wherever the corruption is, whichever group is responsible for wrongful and unjust persecution/discrimination or crime I agree 100% they are at fault for their actions and I also believe they will face the consequences in time.
When I said "they fight for what they deem necessary" I basically mean that they feel the actions taken against them required reaction. You told me to look at it from a victims point of view.. well... let's say a group of people from another country hijack airlines and crash planes into buildings and kill innocents in the process of a exacting revenge for a conflict between foriegn affairs, do you just sit back and say "oh it's no big deal" and move on with life? You just told me if someone came and attacked your home you'd fight back, I am no different. You just told me to think about it with my mind and heart, but you do not even know me. I put a lot of thought into what I say and you do not have to agree with it. I love people, I love animals, I love nature. I want people to coexist peacefully and learn to love instead of hate. I don't like the fighting anymore than you do, and I wish my government would take a hint and just butt out of other peoples affairs because this has gone on long enough and the men responsible all those years ago are gone/taken care of. So don't presume to know how I feel about this just because I support some of the men or women who chose to serve the country. They may have heartless leaders and shitty commanders ordering them around but if they choose to truly murder anyone for no purpose then that blame is on them for doing it and their boss for ordering it but that is it. I am very empathetic and I do wonder how life would be like living in fear day to day, but understand this.. it is no life I would wish on anyone.
You can think of America and its people whichever way you want, but just because you see and hear things from afar, you are wrong to assume we are all the same. I don't believe for one second that all middle-eastern residents are terrorists because that is ignorant. I know everyone is different in their own right, so consider that next time you judge me just because I like to have some faith in humanity. Military, government, civilian or not we are all human and we all make mistakes-we all have faults and I never made claim otherwise.
Invert23Featured By OwnerOct 2, 2012Hobbyist Photographer
Actually, they aren't fighting for what they deem "necessary", they are fighting our Governments agenda and what THEY want to do. As for running in and blowing up peoples houses for the heck of it, you've obviously not done your research. Try googling a few times and see what you come up with, plenty of underground videos of crazy marines doing stupid shit, AC130's and Apache helicopters taking out Innocent targets for the hell of it and laughing about it.
You only hear one side of the story through your so called "MEDIA". Quit being so naive and open up your eyes.
Now we're about to go to war with Iran next because "BroBama" has to back up his girlfriend Israel. More debt, more death, more war.
Im not saying I agree with the government at all, its all corrupt and there are bad people everywhere, but to stereotype a group of people is not fair for those who do see honor in their career choice.
Actually, in the media they show all the bad, the media hardly has good to say. Don't base the actions of a group of idiots on an entire organization that was created for something good. Im sure there are a lot of military people who think what their job is demanding of them is pointless or stupid and maybe in some cases wrong. I can't account for those situations, but it's not all bad, not yet.
As far as the thing about Israel, that's always been an Ally to the U.S. You'd want their help if someone else brought trouble in our country, right? War sucks, The end.
Dont argue with idiots. They obvisiouly have no knowledge of what we do? Killing innocents and laughing about it? Lmao wow , full of shit , we'd get the death penalty for stuff like that. Theyre dumb , dont waste your time. lol
Invert23Featured By OwnerOct 7, 2012Hobbyist Photographer
Of course the media is filled with bad, and no good. Its the image our government wants to give us of these other countries, that their all out to kill us.
The US sells you lies by saying Iran is going to use its power for nuclear bombs when all they truly want as they've been saying is nuclear power for other peaceful purposes. The US and ISRAEL are scared of a shift in power, so they just want to walk right up into IRAN and bomb them back to the stone-age so they can never progress forward and our countries can remain "Dominant global forces" for a NWO. Who's the Dictators now? The End.
Tell me, if the media and everything else is full of lies, how do you know the truth? It is a well known fact that Iran wants Israel off the face off the world. They explicitely state repeatedly that if they had nuclear weapons, they would use them. However, we aren't at war with Iran, it's not our fight (as of yet). We are at war wtih terrorists that kill innocents and oppress their people. Sure, individuals have made bad choices or lost their minds, but war does that to you. You cannot blame governments or the people it supports for the actions of those individuals. The people that act like such are punished by the Government, not supported. The war is justifiable in the sense that this evil must be stopped. The U.S. din't play world police at the end of WWI, shit got out of hand, Hitler rose to power due to this, and the holocaust began. What we do is for the benefit of the people world wide.
Oi, and tell me, is this all 100% fact? Are your sources 100% legitimate? Because it sounds like you work there and know exactly what the governments move is. It also sounds like you Know exactly what the people of Iran are thinking too. Israel, as I understand it is fighting the Palestinians for control of Jerusalem, and that's what I figured they were in this. Now, if you know so much more than I from your inside source, please by all means prove I'm wrong because I don't believe our military is a bunch of mindless zombies doing the bidding of old power-hungry men. This is just my view -what and all of what I know, I never claimed America was all beautiful and perfect, but don't be under the illusion that other countries are too. I get the fact that there is corruption everyone, I know the world's ignorant idea of peace and honesty and loyalty is being thrown out the window, I don't trust the media as far as I can throw them. I have had lots of family in the military and I have lots of family currently in the military, and I can honestly say that I know the type of people they are and that they aren't out there to slander the country or tear other people down for power-hungry fools. As I said before, cant speak for all, mistakes and accidents happen (including the kind where people lie their way into an organization to sabotage its reputation). Still doesn't justify stereotyping everyone under the same category.
its an i e d which is made at home is very explosive and kill thousands of people every year! you need to show respect for the people who live through this and the people who have passed away! i would know cause my dad was in the military!
my sincerest apology man,i was just carried away by this mesmerizing shot,the words that Ive said was my reaction if i was there at the scene,i didn't mean to violate or disrespect anyone. I want to be in the military,but with the lack of opportunity in this fuckin country of mine,i didn't end up in there,so seeing this great photos of yours really pumps up my passion,admiration and emotions for those Nobel men.....again I'm sorry man,and more power to you,and your dad.